Throttlejockey BikersThrottlejockey Bikers
  Throttlejockey Bikers
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Home Forum TJ Twitter Arcade Gallery TJ Googlemap Links vBExperience Chat Box
Go Back   Throttlejockey Bikers > Main Category > Computer Stuff

Computer Stuff Hardware, software and the likes.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-03-2010, 08:28 PM
Andy's Avatar
Andy Andy is offline
Only me
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: North Yorkshire
Age: 48
Posts: 14,379
Thanks: 615
Thanked 1,034 Times in 637 Posts
Hard drive evolution could hit Microsoft XP users

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8557144.stm
By Mark Ward
technology correspondent, BBC News




Windows 7 is one of few operating systems that are "4K aware"

Hard drives are about to undergo one of the biggest format shifts in 30 years.
By early 2011 all hard drives will use an "advanced format" that changes how they go about saving the data people store on them.
The move to the advanced format will make it easier for hard drive makers to produce bigger drives that use less power and are more reliable.
However, it might mean problems for Windows XP users who swap an old drive for one using the changed format.

Error codes

Since the days of the venerable DOS operating system, the space on a hard drive has been formatted into blocks 512 bytes in size.
The 512 byte sector became standardised thanks to IBM which used it on floppy disks.
While 512 bytes was useful when hard drives were only a few megabytes in size, it makes less sense when drives can hold a terabyte (1000 gigabytes), or more of data.



The 512 byte format dates from the days of the floppy

"The technology has changed but that fundamental building block of formatting has not," said David Burks, a product marketing manager for storage firm Seagate.
This fine resolution on hard drives is causing a problem, he said, because of the wasted space associated with each tiny block.
Each 512 byte sector has a marker showing where it begins and an area dedicated to storing error correction codes. In addition a tiny gap has to be left between each sector. In large drives this wasted space where data cannot be stored can take up a significant proportion of the drive.
Moving to an advanced format of 4K sectors means about eight times less wasted space but will allow drives to devote twice as much space per block to error correction.

"You can get yourself into a corner where you cannot squeeze much more onto the disk," said Steve Perkins, a technical consultant for Western Digital.
This shift also allows manufacturers to make more efficient use of the real estate on a hard drive.
"We can put more data on the disk," he said. "It's about 7-11% more efficient as a format."

Slow down

Through the International Disk Drive Equipment and Materials Association (Idema) all hard drive makers have committed to adopting the 4K advanced format by the end of January 2011.

Hard drive makers have begun an education and awareness campaign to let people know about the advanced format and to warn about the problems it could inflict on users of older operating systems such as Windows XP.
This is because Windows XP was released before the 4K format was decided upon.

"The 512 byte sector assumption is ensconced into a lot of the aspects of computer architecture," said Mr Burks from Seagate.
By contrast, Windows 7, Vista, OS X Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard and versions of the Linux kernel released after September 2009 are all 4K aware.

To help Windows XP cope, advanced format drives will be able to pretend they still use sectors 512 bytes in size.
When reading data from a drive this emulation will go unnoticed. However, said Mr Burks, in some situations writing data could hit performance.
In some cases the drive will take two steps to write data rather than one and introduce a delay of about 5 milliseconds.

"All other things being equal you will have a noticeable hard drive reduction in performance," said Mr Burks, adding that, in some circumstances, it could make a drive 10% slower.

In a bid to limit the misalignment, hard drive makers are producing software that ensures 512 sectors line up with 4K ones.
Those most likely to see the performance problems are those building their own computers or swapping out an old drive for one that uses the new format.
__________________
Our Videos on Vimeo
'Folk are like tea, you can never judge o' their quality till they get into hot watter'

Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Andy For This Useful Post:
colrob (10-03-2010), Jojo (10-03-2010), woolly (09-03-2010), Zimtok (10-03-2010)
  #2  
Old 10-03-2010, 12:03 AM
darren's Avatar
darren darren is offline
Moderator
Points: 20,425, Level: 62
Points: 20,425, Level: 62 Points: 20,425, Level: 62 Points: 20,425, Level: 62
Activity: 44%
Activity: 44% Activity: 44% Activity: 44%
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chester le street, county durham
Age: 44
Posts: 4,360
Thanks: 236
Thanked 274 Times in 229 Posts
not before time, all the advances and 512 fixed block addressing has hung around since the 70's
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
drive, evolution, hard, hit, microsoft, users

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gaming Andy Computer Stuff 1851 27-10-2009 03:32 PM
PS3 Hard drive problem? gerardgmd Computer Stuff 2 20-04-2009 11:05 PM
I'v got a hard drive that will run as a slave but not master? chrism316 Computer Stuff 80 08-07-2008 02:29 AM
Posted from computer with no hard drive Xathras Computer Stuff 16 10-10-2005 06:47 PM
Hard Drive Imaging Software Andy Computer Stuff 5 24-09-2005 12:18 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.